Comments on: Safari 4 Developer Preview – Better Performance, Overhauled Web Inspector, New CSS [Update]

By: paradrome-c

paradrome-c — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:39:42 +0000

holy! OMG! I wanna cry .haha

By: krema

krema — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:17:56 +0000

sebkha, thanks for pointing this out. Will definitely test that to get more into this Web Application thingy.

Hi Mulder, never heard of different features for the different platforms so testing the pure presence of the new features seemed needless to me. But I’ve added a screenshot of this preference and as you can see it’s very subtle compared to Safari 3.1.1 (it’s just the new check box under the Generals tab). Is it possible you didn’t see it in the first place? Could you please validate it again and confirm that it’s not showing up in Safari 4 DP on Tiger?

By: Mulder

Mulder — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:09:46 +0000

I don’t know what version you’re referring to, but there are no additional options for Tabs in Preferences in the Safari 4 Preview running on Tiger.

If you’re going to make statements like that, you need to clearly identify which version of the OS you’re running, and show a screenshot, as well as checking any other OS versions.

By: sebkha

sebkha — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:18:16 +0000

…nope, I tested a bit more and you really do need to set the manifest’s MIME type properly.

By: sebkha

sebkha — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:55:11 +0000

@krema: To see the full advantage of “Save as Web App” I think you have to link an HTML 5 cache manifest (see http://www.w3.org/TR/offline-webapps/#offline) to the page you save. I’ve tried this in Safari 4, and it does change the behavior and make the app work when I have the server disabled. The spec says you have to serve the manifest with the text/cache-manifest MIME type, but I think Safari 4 will let you get away with text/plain.

By: krema

krema — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:05:12 +0000

@Dylan: Agree with you. Use firebug too but it's good to see that Safari's Web Inspector gets an overhaul as some UI decisions weren't that good. Nevertheless the UI is way more logical than Firebugs UI but I guess this is a rather subjective matter of taste. But the ability to inline edit elements (html and css) is implemented too. Strange: The last Web Inspector update by the WebKit team was announced here on Dec 2007: Web Inspector Update It seems that this new Web Inspector was directly developed by Apple and not the WebKit team since they didn't post about the update in their blog. But just speculation, not sure about this. @Paul: This Web App thing is rather strange to me since it works just with an active internet connection. Beside lesser toolbars I can see no advantages over using the browser window... Do you see any advantages for it?

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:35:39 +0000

Web app saving sounds interesting; but other than that, nothing new that wasn’t already in the Webkit nightlies’

By: Dylan Bathurst

Dylan Bathurst — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:18:10 +0000

People always talk about how great Safari’s web inspector is. Maybe past versions were just terrible, but I have always felt it was sub-par compared to firebug. The ability to edit content within the browser has been a wonder for my development in FF. Also The complicated, overloaded styles menu in Web Inspector drives me crazy.

What do you think?